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U20 General Discussion / Re: Capsizing
« Last post by Bob Abelin on August 10, 2019, 07:54:45 PM »
There is a video of a capsized U20 in San Francisco Bay. You can search for it on YouTube.  Itís pretty clear from the video that the keel is at least partly retracted so it either wasnít secured or something on the keel box failed.  Iíve definitely had the boat on itís side a few time but it has always righted itself fairly easily once the sheets were released. 
U20 General Discussion / Re: Tiller
« Last post by Don Corey on August 07, 2019, 03:39:24 PM »
Defender Marine has them Item #606903.  2" h x 1.5" w x 43.5" long & rise or 9.75"
U20 General Discussion / Re: Capsizing
« Last post by Mark Allen on August 06, 2019, 04:33:28 PM »
I have been blown over in 50 knots and the boat just bobs on its side. Once the wind drops the boat will come back up. It has 450 pounds in the keel and should be enough to right the boat. I always caution people to not go out on the keel to right the boat in a broach because the boat is so wide the chances of you getting washed off the keel and ending up in the water are too high. Better to just stay in the boat.

To answer your question the only risk is if the keel is not secured properly. If the keel boats are loose or damaged and the keel retracts into the boat if it is knocked over past 90 degrees the boat could turtle. I have only heard of this happening once in San Francisco bay. Checking the bolts and keeping the keel box in good condition should prevent any risk of the keel retracting and possibly turtling the boat.

Other than that the keel is up to the task and should always allow the boat to self right.

U20 General Discussion / Re: Capsizing
« Last post by Orin on August 05, 2019, 05:58:16 AM »
I just had mine out in about 20 knots with my wife and a teenager with no sailing experience. There was about was about an 85 mile fetch for the waves to build but it was quite choppy. A little unpleasant during that small stretch of sailing, my wife was steering (practically no experience) and we broached a couple of times as she panicked at the helm. At the end of the day it was still great to get out and see dolphins and the likes. In any case, we were no where near capsizing in those conditions with full main and jib. The boat stayed surprising dry, only a couple of waves managed to get us wet, and we had one wave get a little bit of the cockpit floor wet when we turned down wind.

In my limited experience I'd say it would be extremely difficult to capsize one of these boats. Probably impossible with wind alone. I don't think you'd want to be out in those conditions anyway, as there would be little enjoyment there IMO.

In a sea state that would cause you to capsize I think there's a good chance the next really big wave would right the boat.

A general rule of with boats is that it takes a cresting wave abeam 1/3rd in height of the length of the boat to capsize it, and because they are less stable inverted a much smaller wave to right the boat. (Eg a 6'11" tall wave for the 20'10" U-20)

Perhaps someone with a bit more experience could weigh in, but these boats are fairly stable. Perhaps not the easiest choice for single handing, but I've single handed much harder boats to sail.
U20 General Discussion / Capsizing
« Last post by salmon on August 04, 2019, 05:10:31 PM »
Dear All:

Is it possible for a U-20 to capsize and if so, can anything be done to prevent a complete "turtling"?  I'd like to purchase one of these boats used and use it for day sailing without a spinnaker, but want to be sure that if I'm in open water where there's a good breeze, the keel will be adequate to the task.

Any advice would be appreciated!  Many thanks!

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Equipment & Sails for Sale / Re: u20 mast
« Last post by Travis Gregory on July 31, 2019, 11:59:59 PM »
There are masts available.  I'll PM you the details.
U20 General Discussion / Re: Tiller
« Last post by Travis Gregory on July 31, 2019, 11:58:39 PM »
Hi Mike, it's a J24 Tiller. Check APS.
U20 General Discussion / Tiller
« Last post by Mike Rizza on July 31, 2019, 05:19:41 PM »
Does anyone know the specs for the tiller on the U20 or a source for a replacement tiller. Mike
Equipment & Sails for Sale / u20 mast
« Last post by zoomzoomu20 on July 31, 2019, 02:40:56 PM »
Is there anyone, making an effort to sell any of the mast in Bayfield that are being replaced?  Are any of them worth having?  I have been trying to find someone to communicate with on this subject.  The email I sent Keithy Zeigler an email but it doesn't appear to be a good address?  from  or 803-238-7653
U20 General Discussion / Reefing line
« Last post by Mike Rizza on July 25, 2019, 10:02:37 PM »
Does anyone have a schematic of the main sail reefing line? Hope to never use it but would be nice to have it in place if need be.
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