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Jay Harland

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2012 Pacific Coast Championships
« on: October 10, 2011, 07:07:12 PM »
I am reposting Mark Allen's post to start a new thread for the 2012 season

We need to decide on what the venue will be for next year. What will be the best attended event. Some ideas;
San Diego
Huntington
Dillon

Which one would you commit to if you knew there would be 10+ boats?

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Re: 2012 Pacific Coast Championships
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2011, 07:30:37 PM »
I have no problem with any of Mark's venue suggestions.  Dillon is a long, long haul.  We would need to get a little closer timewise before we would commit or else get some recipricol committments going for future years (see my next post on that issue).  

We would be up for Huntington or San Diego but would prefer Huntington because it is mid-season.

Our lake also has consistent winds (pretty similar to Huntington conditions in a myriad ways).  We could add a  race day before our regatta to make 3-days of racing or I could organize a different weekend pretty easily with a bump in the entry fees to make it worthwhile for the Club.  We could also do one of the Eugene Regattas.  It is also a great venue.  My preference for a Eugene race would be the Emerald Cup which is in late June because the winds are pretty consistent and weather is turning nice.  Either Oregon location would promote Northwest boat participation which (other than Madison) has been spotty.

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Re: 2012 Pacific Coast Championships
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2011, 07:50:55 PM »
The other part of the conversation the west coast contingent of the class needs to have is scheduling a couple years out for the PCC's.  This is something that I see other classes doing and I think it is important.  It is important because it creates multi-year social contracts.  The Santana 20's and the Thistles are very good about this system.

For example, suppose next year it is in Colorado or Southern California.  If I am considering a two-day drive to Colorado or a long haul to SoCal then my thought process is a little different if I know next year it is in my backyard or in Eugene.  Moreover, if five boats from Colorado have already committed to traveling all the way to Oregon in 2013 I am more willing to consider making a four state trek in 2012.

Naturally, everyone wants the PCC's in their backyard for several reasons.  1.  Logistics are easy.  2.  Homeport sailing advantages.  3.  You get to promote the class in your home port.

However, if everyone just plugs their own venue and commits to a local regatta they were going to attend anyway then we are no further along than when we started.  That is kind of what happened when I tried getting this going last year.  

I propose the west-coasters schedule out the next three seasons.  2012 PCC, 2013 NA's (it has been since 2008 @ Huntington since the U20 North Americans were on the West Coast) and a 2014 PCC.  The goal would be to get 10 boats committed to all three venues this winter.  Then going forward we would just add the the 2015 venue and the future of the class on the West Coast would be made more certain.

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Re: 2012 Pacific Coast Championships
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2011, 04:00:07 PM »
Thoughts?

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Re: 2012 Pacific Coast Championships
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2011, 06:25:55 PM »
Question is "do we want it towards the middle or end of the season? "
The Viper class plans on whidbey in July so I'll be parking that boat. So hsr would be good. There's labor day regatta in long beach first weekend of September which allows an extra day for traveling. Coronado has a one design <25 feet right after anarchy sportboat fest.
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Re: 2012 Pacific Coast Championships
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2011, 02:43:00 PM »
In talking to the Colorado boats. They are willing to travel to San diego for the NOOD this year if we can get 8 boats. If 4 local boats commit, (29, 178, 89, 67...) We should hit that number. What say you. I still think the High sierrra Regatta should be the PCC for 2012. Who plans on going?

As for advanced planning, 2013 should be back to the NOODS in SD and I would love to have Richmond put in a bid for the NA's to take advantage of the America's Cup. I am planning to come out anyway and I know many teams would love to use that as an excuse to see the new amazing boats. I would love to do WIRW or a return to the gorge for 2014.

What does the West coast group think?
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Re: 2012 Pacific Coast Championships
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2011, 04:46:04 PM »
Mark's Suggestion then-

Huntington (2012 PCC)
SD NOOD (2013 PCC)
Richmond NAs (2013)
PCNW Venue TBD (2014 PCC)

This is a good plan and I like it.  Barring something unexpected Madison would attend all four of the above with early commitments of at least 10 other boats.

As for the PCNW.  I would be up for Whidbey Island Race Week or the Gorge Venue.  The other venue I would throw out there would be Sandpoint for their Labor Day Regatta.  That is an incredible venue with some of the most scenic sailing one will do anywhere (hopefully it would not be quite as windy as last time I was there) but neverthess I would like to go back.

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Re: 2012 SD NOOD
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2011, 06:55:52 PM »
While I cannot yet speak for the other San Diego boats, we are planning to race #29 in March if the class minimum can be met.

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In talking to the Colorado boats. They are willing to travel to San diego for the NOOD this year if we can get 8 boats. If 4 local boats commit, (29, 178, 89, 67...) We should hit that number. What say you. I still think the High sierrra Regatta should be the PCC for 2012. Who plans on going?

As for advanced planning, 2013 should be back to the NOODS in SD and I would love to have Richmond put in a bid for the NA's to take advantage of the America's Cup. I am planning to come out anyway and I know many teams would love to use that as an excuse to see the new amazing boats. I would love to do WIRW or a return to the gorge for 2014.

What does the West coast group think?

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Re: 2012 Pacific Coast Championships
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2012, 07:54:15 PM »
We need to start counting.  Votes will eventually = Boats

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Re: 2012 Pacific Coast Championships
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2012, 08:02:56 PM »
I will be sailing the SD NOOD on DogOnIt #138. I cannot do the High Sierra this year since I am committed to the NA's in Pensacola. I plan on doing the NOOD next year for PCC and the NA's hopefully for Richmond/Bay area.

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Re: 2012 Pacific Coast Championships
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2012, 03:42:02 AM »
That is six boats and it is February.  Would like to get all the possiblies to probablies and get six more boats committed by the end of the month.

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Re: 2012 Pacific Coast Championships
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2012, 11:16:19 PM »
Got 4 definitely and four others in the works. Would really like to get 10 boats committed to have a good PCC.

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Re: 2012 Pacific Coast Championships
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2012, 02:45:38 AM »
The informal pole of boats for High Sierra as I understand it is the following:

1. Layla
2. U-Decide
3. Toon-Town
4. Madison
5. Viola

The following will probaly go:
Cinderalla Story
Zephyr
#52 Glenn VanHeel's Boat

What about the following:
Too Tuff?
Salsa?
Uhoo?
UAgain?
Breakaway?
UFO?
Other SOCal Boats?

Would like to add five more to the committed list over the next couple weeks.  Out of the above list we really ought to be able to get five more.  Also, please post on this thread if you are thinking of going but are short crew so that others with boat logistics issues can opt in to crew.

Jay


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Re: 2012 Pacific Coast Championships
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2012, 05:35:59 PM »
It's a long shot at this point but are there any boats available for charter are crew needed to the high sierra? Looking to make some summer vacation plans and that might fit in.

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Re: 2012 Pacific Coast Championships
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2012, 06:06:18 PM »
Just finished North Americans and already planning the next U20 racing.  It is nice to know someone is in more dire need of a 12 step program to cure their U20 addiction than I am.

BTW don't you live at sea level in Florida?  Does your family know you are contemplating taking them to a place that is at 7200 feet and is likely to have low temperatures below freezing in the middle of July?  Just wondering...

I cannot imagine we cannot find you a boat and/or crew spot if your plans firm up. 

Jay

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